Сейчас на борту: 
Аскольд
   [Подробнее...]

Страниц: 1 2 3 4

#1 10.07.2009 16:06:12

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

Попытка систематизировать англоязычные (и другие) документы с сайта Japan Center for Asian Historical Records(JACAR) National Archives of Japan, папка B07090719000, озаглавленная "Miscellaneous matters on Russian naval fleet escaped into ports of neutral countries during Japan-Russia War / Jiaozhou (Kiaochow) Bay".

Часть 1 (reference code B07090719300).

#2 10.07.2009 16:10:44

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s49.radikal.ru/i126/0907/5d/99f251ef2ce1t.jpg

Dated, Chefoo, Aug. 11th 1904. 7.28 p.m.
Received, 10,26 p.m.

Komura,
    Tokio.

310.
    5.30 P.M. minutes today one Russian torpedo boat entered 青島.

        Midzuno.

Отредактированно vs18 (10.07.2009 16:19:47)

#3 10.07.2009 16:15:59

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/0907/f3/2ff48c1dc5a1t.jpg

Dated, Chefoo, Aug. 11th 1904. 7.40 p.m.
Received, 10.27 p.m.

Komura,
    Tokio.

311.
    Novik entered 青島 6.P.M. to-day.
       Telegraphed this to Minister Uchida.

        Midzuno.

Отредактированно vs18 (10.07.2009 16:20:00)

#4 10.07.2009 16:28:55

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i020.radikal.ru/0907/2f/bc29a2260c6bt.jpg

    Sent Aug 12 1904 12.30 a.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin

no 219. It is reported from Chefoo that Russian Cruiser Novik and one torpedo boat entered the port of Chingtao 6 p.m. and 5.30 p.m. [] respectively as the result of the naval engagement which took place between Japanese and Russian Squadrons.
You are instructed to bring the above fact to the notice of German Govt and to express the hope of the Japanese Govt that the German Govt will [in accordance with established principles of international law] lose no time in takinge proper measures in connection with the above belligerent ships.
    Gokoshi
        Komura.

#5 10.07.2009 16:35:06

Россiя
Гость




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

青島- Циндао :)

#6 10.07.2009 16:36:00

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s59.radikal.ru/i164/0907/47/ee8141355f39t.jpg

Sent, Aug/ 12th 1904 12,40 a.m.

Midzuno,
    Chefoo.

110/
    Instructed Aug. 11th Minister Inouye as follow
        ([])
  Transmit Uchida.

        Komura.

#7 10.07.2009 16:47:09

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/0907/c7/ce76bf34ffabt.jpg

Sent, Augt 12 1904. 6.5 p.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin.

No. 223. [] telegraphed as follows:
    ([] 318 [])

Gokoshiye.

        Komura.

#8 10.07.2009 16:51:52

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s46.radikal.ru/i113/0907/b6/db4ba73f7928t.jpg

    Sent, 12-8-1904. 7.30 p.m.

Hayashi
    Seoul

323. Instructed Aug. 11th Minister Inouye as follows:-
    ([] 219 []).

        Komura.

#9 10.07.2009 17:58:09

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0907/e6/1eeacfb00120t.jpghttp://s53.radikal.ru/i140/0907/81/5e8269f3da96t.jpg

Dated, Berlin, August 12th 1904. 5-50 p.m.
Received, August 13th, 1-45 p.m.

    Komura,
        Tokyo.

No 325. In reference to your telegrams 219 and 220, I saw Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs August 12th and carried out instructions. He stated that having already seen Reuter's telegram concerning the report, he had already telegraphed to the German Emperor and Chancellor of the Empire on the matter, but up to present moment ( 12.M.) Foreign Office was not yet in receipt of any official information from the Governor of Kiaochow. He assured me that German Govt., in accordance with their neutrality, will not delay in taking proper measures in the matter, and telegraph necessary instructions to the Governor. He then said that he was surprised that the Russian cruisers should have escaped the Japanese fleet and entered Kiaochow and hoped that German authorities there did not make any mistakes in dealing with the affair and that I would telegraph  to Tokyo in pacifying sense, for there was no ground to doubt German's neutrality. Upon my remaking thet the fact of so many Russian cruisers entering Chingtao and coaling there appeared as if Russians were going to use Kiaochow as a basis of their operations, Acting Minister said that in no case can such an idea be entertained and German Govt. would not allow such a thing, but he must say that a neutral Power could not prevent a belligerent ship from entering its port, in which case it would of course be treated in accordance with principles of international law.

        Inouye.

#10 10.07.2009 19:29:00

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/0907/c1/c4414c1b6b20t.jpghttp://i042.radikal.ru/0907/69/86c4a250db6bt.jpg

Dated, Berlin, August 12th 1904. 8.50 p.m.
Received, August 13th, 3.40 p.m.

    Komura,
        Tokio.

No. 327.
    In reference to my telegram 325, I saw Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs again on the evening of August 12th. He told me that since I conferred with him this morning German Government had given prompt and sue consideration to the matter, as a result of which telegraphic instructions had just been sent to Governor of Kiaochow, in the following sense.
    Any belligerent ship entering the port shall be allowed to take in coal so as to enable her to reach the next nearest home port, but she must leave the harbour within 24 hours from the time of her entry, and should such ship be disabled from doing so then further period of 24 hours will be allowed. Shold any ship refuse to leave within specified time then she shall be disarmed and kept in charge by the authorities.
    Governor was instructed to communicate without delay above decision of German Government to the Commander of the Russian ships.
    Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs said that above was in principle the same as those principles which British Government maintain as being applicable to such cases as the present, end expressed the hope the Japanese Government would be feel satisfied with this impartial treatment of the matter.
       
        Inouye.

#11 10.07.2009 19:29:14

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/0907/c1/c4414c1b6b20t.jpghttp://i042.radikal.ru/0907/69/86c4a250db6bt.jpg

Dated, Berlin, August 12th 1904. 8.50 p.m.
Received, August 13th, 3.40 p.m.

    Komura,
        Tokio.

No. 327.
    In reference to my telegram 325, I saw Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs again on the evening of August 12th. He told me that since I conferred with him this morning German Government had given prompt and sue consideration to the matter, as a result of which telegraphic instructions had just been sent to Governor of Kiaochow, in the following sense.
    Any belligerent ship entering the port shall be allowed to take in coal so as to enable her to reach the next nearest home port, but she must leave the harbour within 24 hours from the time of her entry, and should such ship be disabled from doing so then further period of 24 hours will be allowed. Should any ship refuse to leave within specified time then she shall be disarmed and kept in charge by the authorities.
    Governor was instructed to communicate without delay above decision of German Government to the Commander of the Russian ships.
    Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs said that above was in principle the same as those principles which British Government maintain as being applicable to such cases as the present, end expressed the hope the Japanese Government would be feel satisfied with this impartial treatment of the matter.
       
        Inouye.

#12 10.07.2009 20:52:18

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0907/cf/78a53529d921t.jpg

Dated, Chefoo, Augt. 13 1904. 4.40 p.m.
Received, 7.50 p.m.

Komura,
    Tokio.

No. 323. Russians at Tsingtau are sending since 11/8 evening long telegrams to St. Petersburg, Moukden, and now a long telegram from Tsingtau addressed to admiral, Vladivostock, is passing Chefoo telegraph office. This telegram was given at Tsingtau at 10 p.m. 12/8. As they entered there 4 p.m. 11/8, they are already more than 24 hours there.
Local telegraph office was advised unusually to keep Tsingtau cable open all night.

        Midzuno.

#13 10.07.2009 21:10:30

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i071.radikal.ru/0907/cf/ab13d8b47661t.jpg

Sent, Augt. 13 1904. 1.00 p.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin.

No. 226. According to latest reliable information from Kiaochow, Novik, Czarewitch and one destroyer entered the port 11/8. The first named left port after ten hours stay, the second suffered grave damages and intends to remain stationary in the port while the third and two more destroyers which entered 12/8 being all damaged, desire to remain three days in the port. Under the circumstances you are instructed to see German Minister for Foreign Affairs as soon as possible and repeat to him the desire of the Japanese Government as stated in my telegram. 219.

    Komura.

#14 11.07.2009 07:12:13

Geomorfolog
Вице-Адмиралъ, картографъ, лучший меценат Форума 2009 и 2011
v-admiral
anna3 stas3
Откуда: г. Ноябрьск-Белая Церковь
Сообщений: 9530




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

ツエザレウィッチ Цесаревич


Добро — это когда я украду чужой скот и чужих жен, а зло — когда у меня украдут.

#15 11.07.2009 15:45:43

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s51.radikal.ru/i134/0907/ca/72d9e54b34b6t.jpg

Sent, August 13th 1904. 1.00 p.m.

Uchida,
    Peking.    No. 459.

Hayashi,
    Seoul.      No. 326.

Minister Inouye has been instructed as follows:-
    ( No. 226. )

        Komura.

#16 11.07.2009 15:56:29

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i073.radikal.ru/0907/db/b1262491e6e9t.jpg

Sent, August 13th 1904. 4-35 p.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin.

No. 227. Consul Midzuno telegraphs that according to Tsingtau telegram three Russian destroyers there left the port midnight last with German torpedoboat s. 90 but they reentered the port dawn August 13th.
    Gokoshi.

        Komura.

#17 11.07.2009 17:12:55

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s55.radikal.ru/i147/0907/b0/a3277adc6f44t.jpg

Sent, August 13th 1904. 7.10 p.m.

    Inouye,
        Berlin.

No. 228.
      Kiden 327 gokoshini tenden.

    Hayashi,
        Seoul. No. 328.
    Midzuno,
        Chefoo. No. 113.

    Minister Inouye telegraphed as follows ( No. 327. ) On the subject of Russian vessels taking refuge at Kiaochow, I saw ( [] )
        Komura.
      Add to Midzuno "transmit to Minister Uchida"

#18 11.07.2009 17:24:31

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0907/af/83a7be2aa4c4t.jpg

Sent, Aug. 14 1904. 4.40 p.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin.

    No. 233. In reference to your telegram 327, you will say to the Minister for Foreign Affairs that the Japanese Gov't learned with satisfaction of the prompt and impartial action taken by the German Government and that you are instructed by the Japanese Government to express their appreciation of the action in question.

        Komura.

Отредактированно vs18 (11.07.2009 17:24:48)

#19 11.07.2009 18:21:02

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/0907/1e/2c1440a40367t.jpghttp://s53.radikal.ru/i139/0907/70/c607673954fet.jpg

Dated, Berlin, Aug. 14th, 1904. 1.20 p.m.
Received, Aug. 15th, 0.20 a.m.

Komura,
    Tokyo.

331. In reference to your telegram 226, I saw Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs on the evening of Aug. 13th and drew his attention to points mentioned therein. He was decidedly of the opinion that at the time such report was telegraphed from Kiaochow, Governor was not yet in receipt of instructions mentioned in my telegram 327, which by this time he must have received, and stated that as the latter had been instructed to carry them out strictly, he had not the least doubt that the would be faithfully observed. At the outbreak of the war, he had already been instructed that no belligerent ship should be allowed to stay in port longer than 24 hours and the renewed instructions had special reference to those ships which were disabled. If any belligerent ship therefore exceeded limited time of stay, then she would of course be disarmed and in order to to have such instructions enforced three ? German men-of-war had already been ordered to proceed immediately to Kiaochou. German Government, in deciding upon the course they would pursue in the present instance, had taken also as basis principles of the Japanese regulations with regard to belligerent ships, issued during the Spanish American war. Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs further stated that it was of course understood that besides necessary coal and provisions to reach nearest Russian port, Russian ships would not be allowed to take in arms and ammunitions and that the same ship would not be permitted to enter and coal twice. Thus German Government were doing their best to meet the desire of the Japanese Government and at the same time to strictly maintain their neutrality, and he hoped that a calm view would be taken in Tokio of the matter. I have just received your telegram 227 to which I shall immediately draw attention of Acting Minister.

        Inouye.

#20 17.07.2009 16:20:48

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i013.radikal.ru/0907/fe/45ef24599bdct.jpg

Dated, Berlin, Augt. 14 1904. 1.20 p.m.
Received, Aug. 15, 3.20 a.m.

Komura,
        Tokio.
No. 332. Foreign newspapers having reported that Germany had given tacit consent to Russia in making preparations in Tsingtau for receiving and otherwise assisting Russian ships, a contradiction has been published in German papers stating that report is entirely unfounded and that it is far from intention of Germany to treat Russian ships any more favorably than the Japanese should they enter a German port.

    Inouye.

#21 17.07.2009 16:36:19

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i012.radikal.ru/0907/9d/847cc48282a0t.jpghttp://i036.radikal.ru/0907/72/300959618871t.jpg

Dated, Berlin, August 13 1904. 8-5 p.m.
Received, August 15, 5-25 p.m.

    Komura,
        Tokyo.

No. 333. In reference to the last part of my telegram 331, as it was too late last night for me to see Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs, I immediately wrote a private letter to him and drew his attention to the matter. I am just in receipt of his reply dated August 14th which is as follows:-
    "I have at once forwarded your letter of this night to the competent marine authorities, requesting them to furnish me without delay what authoritative news they possess or may obtain concerning the facts alluded to by you. So I hope that I shall soon be able to hand over to you a true and satisfactory statement of the case. Meanwhile I beg leave to bring the following statement before you:-
    Our marine officers Tsingtau have the strictest instructions as to their duties for the maintenance of our absolute neutrality. They know especially that they must not allow that Tsingtau should be made a naval basis by either of the belligerents and that consequently a reentrance of Russian ships in that port is inadmissible. This being so, our highest marine administrative authorities at home refuse to give credit to the news bearing that Russian torpedo-destroyer had reentered the port"
    I hear that it is probable that the German Govt. will shortly issue regulations concerning ships of a belligerent Power which should enter a German port.

    Inouye.

#22 17.07.2009 16:48:38

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i040.radikal.ru/0907/a5/bc15ad091044t.jpg

Dated, Peking, August 15th 1904. 4,45 p.m.
Received, 8,25 p.m.

    Komura,
        Tokio.

No. 341. ( sango ).
    German Minister to China at Pei-tai-ho sent his Secretary to inform me Aug. 15th that Governor of Kiaochow received instructions from his Govt. substantially in the same meaning sense as reported in the telegram of our Minister at Berlin to you and transmitted to me through our Consul at Chefoo but with important difference that in telegram to German Minister to China no mention was made of limitation of the time for repairs of disabled ships.
Secretary alluded that sufficient time will be allowed to disabled ships to make necessary repairs to enable them to put to sea. The above also sent to our COnsul at Chefoo.

    Midzuno. Uchida

#23 17.07.2009 16:59:23

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i018.radikal.ru/0907/e6/e14b3168f182t.jpg

Dated, Chefoo, Aug. 15 1904. 7-10 p.m.
Received, 9-50 p.m.

Komura,
    Tokyo.

No. 339. Reports from Tsingtao agree in stating that at noon August 15th flags of Czarevitch and 3 destroyers were pulled down in presence of German Governor with speeches on both sides, and further that German authorities received instruction from Berlin to the effect that sea-worthy ship must leave immediately and sea-unworthy ships will be repaired under German supervision just to make navigable. Nothing should be done about fighting power but curiously enough no mention was made in these reports about disarming so far.
    The above telegraphed to Minister Uchida and Consul General Odagiri.

        Midzuno.

#24 17.07.2009 17:08:17

vs18
Капитанъ I ранга
k1r
anna3 stas3b
Откуда: Харьков, Украина
Сообщений: 3745




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

http://i075.radikal.ru/0907/69/fed7b0be5233t.jpg

Sent, 15-8-1904. 11.0 a.m.

Inouye,
    Berlin.

235. Kiden 331 gokoshi.

    Komura.

Отредактированно vs18 (17.07.2009 17:08:55)

#25 18.07.2009 17:28:54

Geomorfolog
Вице-Адмиралъ, картографъ, лучший меценат Форума 2009 и 2011
v-admiral
anna3 stas3
Откуда: г. Ноябрьск-Белая Церковь
Сообщений: 9530




Re: Интернирование "Цесаревича" и другие эпизоды в Циндао (Киао-Чао).

А вот так японцы сразу после боя представляли повреждения Цесаревича(по материалам немецких газет)
http://s19.radikal.ru/i192/0907/31/40601b254bf8t.jpg

http://i009.radikal.ru/0907/bc/62d0fdaf6ed1.jpg

http://i068.radikal.ru/0907/7a/b9022a824015.jpg


Добро — это когда я украду чужой скот и чужих жен, а зло — когда у меня украдут.

Страниц: 1 2 3 4


Board footer